deadpool03mm (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

So referees just stop fights and declare victory for no good reason whatsoever just because you tell them to? If that were true, I'd begin my MMA career tomorrow. You can see Royce go limp on the vid, he can't break Yoshida's choke and his arms and legs fall flat, and the Brazilian guy in the Gee seen in the background behind Yoshida is NOT Royce Gracie. Unless it was all part of the super-secret BJJ "pretend to be dying" submission, which I wouldin't put past you retards, then he lost.

deadpool03mm (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I saw the whole, fight. He did not jump back up. There's a nice expose vid titled Yoshida chokes out Royce or something to that effect.

jshoup (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

You clearly have not seen the fight, Royce was not on the ground for 14 seconds, he wasn't on the ground at all, he jumped right back up wondering why the fight was stopped when he didn't tap and was not unconscious. When you get choked out you don't just jump right up with all you senses working fine, Royce did.Royce proved beyond all doubt who the better fighter is in the second fight.

jshoup (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

He didn't have the choke for 10 seconds, if he had it for 10 seconds, Royce would not pop right back up pissed off that the fight was stopped.I am no BJJ fanboy, I come from boxing, and alternate between Judo and BJJ

TENNSUMITSUMA (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

its amazing the shit that comes out of your mouth, makes people wonder whats left to come out of your asstell you what go to a few of the schools ive been to while i was doing martial arts, go head to head with them for just 1 min and maybe youll see that just cause you take mma or bjj it doesnt mean shit and despite that you can still get your ass beati bet you where told 'just say u do mma or bjj and people will be scared of u' well sorry but they straight lied to you

rxnupe (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

it's a amazing this dumbass Tennsumithsuma which is perhaps Swahili for "i don't know shit about MMA" is a 21 year old dumbass that was 5 when Royce debuted. tell you what Tennsumitusma take some MMA courses -roll with a few people who know something about the Sport before you make dumb ass comments- you are like a person who wants to criticize a world class swimmer but has never been in a swimmming pool,

TENNSUMITSUMA (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

i am a 4th degree this, i am 9th degree that im this im thatI DONT GIVE A FUCK, you cant tap if your out cold and he was (whos the dumb ass now) but if it makes u feel better i wish the ref just let him keep the hold in and kill royce on till he taps (which could never happen) i dont watch that shit and i dont need to take mma or bjj like you do (if you even do at all) i am more than able to take people out with what i know and my size makes it even easier

rxnupe (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I am a 4th degree Black Belt from Renzo's school-I met Royce many times. You are perhaps some fat ass gay fucker that just watches MMA and never took a course. Bottom line royce never tapped in the 1st fight and Royce kicked yoshida's ass in the rematch. Also Royce and Saku only fought twice-you said they fought many times-what a dumb ass you are.

rodneyghee (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

royce fights only if the rules or circumstances benefit him,if he was a grappling expert use the gi then..in all fighting sports boxing,judo,taekwondo you cannot just make your own rules..this just shows he wants to win at all costs even taking steroids....so sad

rodneyghee (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

i personally think royce will only fight when the rules or circumstatnces benefit him,if he was a grappling expert go and use your gi and lets see what will happen,in all fighing sports boxing,judo,karate etc no one can alter the rules for his benefit but royce gets away with it to the point of using steroids..well done such a role model!!!